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 Post subject: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:48 pm 
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I knew I should have posted this to the forum. I'm still not sure if it will work, but I'd been working on a Samchillian clef for some time, since Leon haphazardly mentioned it on his website quite a while ago. Every time I'm on the phone with a customer lately, I find myself doodling. A good third of them turned out to be samchillian clefs. I'm worried it looks too much like a del signo, but I hope that the steam iron pointer in the middle makes it different enough.

http://www.1up.com/do/imageDisplay?id=3406751

*The new link works, my previous attempt at img - I don't think it did.*

In addition, I was asked the 'why do we still use five lines' question. I would say that the reason we use five lines for conventional notation is that it keeps too many notes from looking like one another.

I have commonly heard it said, mostly about Tetris, that we tend to only remember seven things at a go, and that's why there are only seven pieces in Tetris, and phone numbers tend to be seven digits - I think that's Amerocentric oversimplification. I think seven is a good number and may work for the general populace, but any wind player remembers a lot more things in a group than that. (And four of the seven Tetris pieces are two reflected pairs.)

On the other hand, if there were, say seven or more lines in conventional notation, I would worry that a C and an E look too much alike, lost in the interior like a jungle party without their native guide. Better that we have ledger lines and notes look unique than having to second guess a note. I know it would totally screw up my sightreading.

For Samchillian, I suspect that if one had used more lines from day one, it might not matter as much, since a new instrument might form new mental associations.

If this gets used as a movable clef, the steam iron points to MV+0.

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 Post subject: Re: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:03 pm 
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very good!


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 Post subject: Same picture, hopefully included this time.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:53 pm 
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It's fun to learn more internet stuff. Yay for me. Here's the clef, hopefully posted in the message for once.

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 Post subject: Re: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:55 pm 
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can the point of the iron be to the RIGHT toward the "Notes"?
picky i know, but it would help with the MV_0 line i think

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 Post subject: Re: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:08 am 
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I'll have to pick at it a bit, but I had already discarded that idea once because it made it harder to see what the pointy thing in the middle was. The slope of the S and the curve of the iron tended to visually merge too much - especially at the size that a clef is usually written. Perhaps if I made the Steam Iron larger...

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 Post subject: Re: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:31 am 
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It doesn't look so bad the other way.

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The swirly squiggle on the right is a guide that I did in CadStd. I was hoping I could actually do it in some flavor of CAD, but the variable line width and the thingamabobs on the ends proved my undoing. Sure, I'll learn more CAD, but at a certain point it's just faster to whip out a pen and *gasp* draw the thing already. I made this one a little more tall and slender so the iron and the S didn't merge visually. I do like my line widths on my original better, now that I'm seeing both of them at the same time, but I shouldn't obsess about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:45 am 
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I like the one on the Left
Very good Work sir


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 Post subject: Re: Samchillian Clef
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:10 am 
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Thanks. I'm more comfortable with the righthanded point now that I got it right.

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That's on a Fisher-Price Doodle Pro. (Hee Hee.) I also have a silly picture of Vernon and Corey from Living Color on my blog using the same DoodlePro.

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